{"id":3824,"date":"2018-07-06T05:00:21","date_gmt":"2018-07-06T12:00:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/?p=3824"},"modified":"2023-09-10T09:26:24","modified_gmt":"2023-09-10T16:26:24","slug":"growing-grapes-on-a-chain-link-fence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/growing-grapes-on-a-chain-link-fence\/","title":{"rendered":"Growing grapes on a chain link fence"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Five summers ago, we moved into a house that is fronted by 250 feet of blank chain link fence. I saw a grape canvas. And I started planting.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Now in 2018 I see that my vision had been a good one.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We\u2019ve got 13 vines growing and a few dozen feet of fence left uncovered.&nbsp;<\/span>Chain link is an ideal support for grapevines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And at this point I feel I\u2019ve learned enough about how to best plant them, train them, and prune them that it\u2019s time to share.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To keep this post focused, I won\u2019t say much about growing grapes generally. I&#8217;ll direct you to <a href=\"http:\/\/sacmg.ucanr.edu\/Growing_table_grapes\/\">this excellent page of resources all about growing grapes made by the Master Gardeners of Sacramento County.<\/a>\u00a0And may I also direct you to <a href=\"http:\/\/sacmg.ucanr.edu\/files\/263737.pdf\">an excellent slide presentation on growing grapes in a California backyard made by Chuck Ingels<\/a>, the editor of the highly recommended book,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/the-home-orchard-a-book-review\/\"><em>The Home Orchard<\/em><\/a>?<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Planting<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So here\u2019s what I do. Plant the vines about six inches from the fence and not too close to the footing of a fence post, where you\u2019ll run into its clump of concrete. And plant each vine at least eight feet apart; mine are at exactly eight.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Training: first summer<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The first year, let everything grow. No pruning. The canes and leaves that grow make energy (photosynthesize) for the roots, and the main goal in the first year is to get the plant big and established.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But sometime in the spring or early summer (if your grapevine is happy in its new home), you will have a couple feet of fresh, new green growth. Find the one cane that is strongest &#8212; thickest and longest &#8212; and tie it up the fence, straight up. I use the green tape that is sometimes called nursery tape. Tie every foot or so. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Nursery-tape-tie-grapevine.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"229\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Nursery-tape-tie-grapevine-229x300.jpg\" alt=\"Nursery tape tie grapevine\" class=\"wp-image-3832\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Nursery-tape-tie-grapevine-229x300.jpg 229w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Nursery-tape-tie-grapevine-600x786.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Nursery-tape-tie-grapevine-768x1006.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Nursery-tape-tie-grapevine-782x1024.jpg 782w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Nursery-tape-tie-grapevine.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 229px) 100vw, 229px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Nursery tape tying grapevine to chain link fence.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-first-year-tied-vertical-to-chain-link-fence.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-first-year-tied-vertical-to-chain-link-fence-199x300.jpg\" alt=\"Grapevine first year tied vertical to chain link fence\" class=\"wp-image-3835\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-first-year-tied-vertical-to-chain-link-fence-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-first-year-tied-vertical-to-chain-link-fence-600x905.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-first-year-tied-vertical-to-chain-link-fence-768x1158.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-first-year-tied-vertical-to-chain-link-fence-679x1024.jpg 679w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-first-year-tied-vertical-to-chain-link-fence.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 199px) 100vw, 199px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Grapevine in its first year tied vertically.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Don\u2019t let the canes weave in and out of the fence. Just tie them to one side of the fence. These canes are going to grow thicker over time, and if you\u2019ve allowed them to weave in and out of the fence, there\u2019s no going back. They\u2019ll consume the fence and you\u2019ll never be able to prune them out entirely. You\u2019ll have to damage the fence or leave bits of cane on the fence. If only tied to one side of the fence, however, you can decide to remove the vine at any time and do so completely, leaving no damage to the fence.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Also, as you tie the cane up, don\u2019t tie the very end of the cane; put your last tie about a foot from the cane\u2019s end. Sometimes tying down the end of the cane seems to stifle its continued growth. Finally, don\u2019t wait too long to start tying the strong cane up or else it will get stiff and attach to the fence in an undesirable way and be more difficult to place vertically, as you want.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Or as <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> want, I should say. What if you just let a grapevine grow on a chain link fence without this tying, training, and later, pruning? It will grow, and it will give you grapes, but it will also take over your world. Grapes can be incredibly vigorous plants. Training and pruning them as I\u2019m describing ensures that the vines stay within a certain size and produce the near-maximum in quantity and quality of fruit. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Back to training: Once the strong, vertically tied cane reaches the top of the fence, bend it to the right or left and begin tying it horizontally. Whichever way you direct it, another cane will grow near the bend that you can use to tie horizontally in the other direction.&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What we\u2019re aiming for is a \u201cT\u201d shape.&nbsp;This might be as far as your vine gets in the first year.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Training: second summer<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My chain link fence is 5.5 feet tall, and I have my top horizontal arms at that height. But I\u2019ve also grown lower horizontal arms on all of my vines at 3.5-4 feet from the ground. Having two sets of horizontal arms allows for two levels of foliage as well as two levels of fruit production &#8212; although not necessarily more overall fruit production.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Second-summer-grapevine-training-on-chain-link-fence.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"234\" src=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Second-summer-grapevine-training-on-chain-link-fence-300x234.jpg\" alt=\"Second summer grapevine training on chain link fence\" class=\"wp-image-3831\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Second-summer-grapevine-training-on-chain-link-fence-300x234.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Second-summer-grapevine-training-on-chain-link-fence-600x467.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Second-summer-grapevine-training-on-chain-link-fence-768x598.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Second-summer-grapevine-training-on-chain-link-fence-1024x797.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Second-summer-grapevine-training-on-chain-link-fence-1080x841.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Second-summer-grapevine-training-on-chain-link-fence.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Grapevine in its second summer being trained with two sets of horizontal arms on chain link fence<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Sprouts will grow off the sides of your vertical trunk in the second spring if they hadn&#8217;t in the first spring, so if you want lower arms just choose two and tie them horizontally.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">After you\u2019ve got the two or four horizontal arms that you want, your training work is done. This is the scaffold that the vine will have for the rest of its life.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A note on nomenclature: I\u2019m using the word \u201carm,\u201d but grape people usually use the fancy word \u201ccordon\u201d for these permanent arms.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><b>Pruning<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Each winter, you\u2019ll have to cut off a lot of the past summer\u2019s growth. Don\u2019t be timid about this. Remember that grapes are incredibly vigorous plants. Also, don\u2019t be haphazard. You need to prune in specific ways or you may not get any fruit the next year.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I cut my horizontal arms back to three feet in length, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">every<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> winter. Then, on each arm, I cut off all but four canes, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">every<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> winter. I choose four that are growing strongly and are spaced at least a fist\u2019s distance apart.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" src=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Grapevine canes on arm in winter before pruning\" class=\"wp-image-3827\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning-510x382.jpg 510w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning-1080x810.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-canes-on-arm-in-winter-before-pruning.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Horizontal arm of a grapevine with many canes. I&#8217;ll choose four and cut out the rest.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Then I cut each of the four canes on each horizontal arm back to two nodes (buds where a cane will grow), <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">every<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> winter. These stubs of two nodes are called \u201cspurs,\u201d and this method of pruning is called \u201cspur pruning.\u201d It works well on most grape varieties.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-spur-in-winter-before-pruning.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-spur-in-winter-before-pruning-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"Grapevine spur in winter before pruning\" class=\"wp-image-3826\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-spur-in-winter-before-pruning-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-spur-in-winter-before-pruning-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-spur-in-winter-before-pruning-768x1024.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-spur-in-winter-before-pruning-1080x1441.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-spur-in-winter-before-pruning.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Grapevine spur that grew canes from its two nodes the previous summer. I&#8217;ll cut the canes back to two nodes again.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here is what each of my vines looks like in January after pruning is finished.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-on-chain-link-fence-pruned-in-winter.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"289\" src=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-on-chain-link-fence-pruned-in-winter-300x289.jpg\" alt=\"Grapevine on chain link fence spur pruned in winter\" class=\"wp-image-3837\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-on-chain-link-fence-pruned-in-winter-300x289.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-on-chain-link-fence-pruned-in-winter-600x578.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-on-chain-link-fence-pruned-in-winter-768x739.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-on-chain-link-fence-pruned-in-winter-1024x986.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-on-chain-link-fence-pruned-in-winter-1080x1040.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Grapevine-on-chain-link-fence-pruned-in-winter.jpg 1400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">One vertical trunk, two sets of arms\/cordons, and four spurs on each arm. Ready to rocket out new growth in spring!<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Totalling things up, each grapevine will have about 16 spurs (four on each arm, and four arms). If you have a vine with only two arms, you&#8217;ll also want to prune down to a total of about 16 spurs, so maybe eight on each arm. Much more and the grapevine may not have the energy to make them all productive. Much fewer and you&#8217;ll get less fruit than is possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The following spring, all of the nodes on the spurs that were left will begin to grow and it is on them that clusters of grapes form in the summer.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Repeat the above pruning <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">every<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> winter, indefinitely. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Your grapevines will repeat their provision of wonderful clusters of grape berries for you <em>every<\/em> summer, indefinitely.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Clusters-of-grapes.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"262\" src=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Clusters-of-grapes-300x262.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3829\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Clusters-of-grapes-300x262.jpg 300w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Clusters-of-grapes-600x525.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Clusters-of-grapes-768x672.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Clusters-of-grapes-1024x896.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Clusters-of-grapes-1080x945.jpg 1080w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Clusters-of-grapes.jpg 1500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Miles-with-grapes.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"180\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Miles-with-grapes-180x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-3828\" srcset=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Miles-with-grapes-180x300.jpg 180w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Miles-with-grapes-600x1001.jpg 600w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Miles-with-grapes-768x1282.jpg 768w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Miles-with-grapes-614x1024.jpg 614w, https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Miles-with-grapes.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 180px) 100vw, 180px\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">&#8220;Chain link grapes are the best, Dad!&#8221;<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>End note: A<span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> few grape varieties need to be \u201ccane pruned.\u201d This means that instead of cutting back the canes on each arm to two nodes, you leave them longer, about 15 nodes long. Be sure to look up how your specific variety needs to be pruned.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>You might also like to read my posts:&nbsp;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/grapevine-on-eave-to-shade-house\/\">Grapevine on eave to shade house<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/gregalder.com\/yardposts\/propagating-grapes\/\"><strong>Propagating grapes with cuttings<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Five summers ago, we moved into a house that is fronted by 250 feet of blank chain link fence. I saw a grape canvas. And I started planting. 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